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Andy Carolan :prami:

@neil I think we all realise that eventually that verification data will be leaked/‘hacked’… photos, names, driving licence details etc.

It's not always as simple as it could be but the tech which children use should be as locked down as possible. Parental controls blocking search for example. Perhaps efforts should be focussed in improving those controls + educating parents?

Then there's the whole VPN issue. Those are easy for anyone to install, use, and get past these rules.

@andycarolan @neil I've been testing parental controls for at least 15 years, and I've yet to encounter a system that is sufficiently nuanced to give tweens/young teenagers in particular access to things they should have access to while still blocking actual pr0n, mostly due to scope creep that tends in specific ideological directions (such as homophobia built into the service).

More worrying still, pretty much all of them have massive scope for abuse by parents/guardians and include features such as tracking, usually implemented in ways that violate the rights of the child.

I don't have any great answers at scale to this - as an individual parent, I have a solution, but its success depends on my being extremely hands-on and technically/culturally knowledgeable about the internet, and it still reflects my biases about appropriate content.

@andycarolan @neil (I also think anti-porn crusades are something of a Trojan horse in general. Sure, there's some porn that models harmful behaviour, but it's always so strongly emphasised as a danger over models of violence, for example, or even gambling.)

@HauntedOwlbear As you said about your own solution, I think it has to be very hands on. My solution here is very much reliant on iOS parental controls on a case by case basis. I have whitelisted some apps however. I imagine that tween/teen ages are more difficult because there's a need for more access to social apps and services, and that brings with it it's own problems. @neil

@andycarolan @neil Everyone parents the way they think it’s right.

I personally think it’s more about parents keeping a general eye on their kids and being aware of what they’re doing on their devices, rather than locking down every single thing.

@ravipatel Well, my child is only 9, so I lock down a fair bit. As he gets older, I unlock more.

I think it's also somewhat dangerous to block access to the things their social group/friends have access to as that could have negative effects on their social development. Again, as you said, keeping a general eye on what they are doing. @neil

@andycarolan @neil My kids don’t really use Safari so that’s a big vector that isn’t yet a concern.

We did from YouTube to YouTube kids but they generally watch videos about Lego and Frozen