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I've gone from "AI is kinda annoying but whatever” last week to utterly furious about it this week.
Slack are now training their models on all data including DMs https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/trust/data-management/privacy-principles
@robb It's being forced into everything now, and very few people who uses these products asked for it!
I'm hearing things all the time about companies looking into ways to leverage AI in their products. It’s grim.
@andycarolan And Slack is a paid product, it's not like they need a new way to make money, they already charge per user and it's not cheap.
@robb Sadly, money doesn't slow down the AI invasion.
Abode CC is a not-all-that-cheap paid product and that now has Generative AI features baked in. I wish I could opt out of it!
@andycarolan @robb it is not easy, but we should not raise a white flag.
@andycarolan @robb we strongly disagree, but we are also biased :)
@Cloud68 Well, the problem for me for example, is that Adobe CC, a product that I need for work, now has generative AI baked into it. I would love to opt out, or switch to another product, but I can't... I rely on the apps too much for that. Also, if there were an alternative, there's nothing stopping that from doing the same, and adding AI into their suite of tools. @robb
@andycarolan @robb indeed some apps and software are not easy to migrate, but we can start from low hanging fruits no? For Slack for example there is #mattermost or #MatrixMessenger .
@Cloud68 @andycarolan I don't have control over what chat app we use at work but if I did, I cannot imagine trying to onboard our non-technical team members onto Matrix.
@andycarolan @Cloud68 @robb On that note, while not a complete replacement, have you tried @penpot? :)
@andycarolan @Cloud68 @robb @penpot Cool; do let them know how you get on. They’re a friendly bunch.
@andycarolan @aral @Cloud68 @robb oh wow!!! we hope you give us a try!
@andycarolan @robb it's ok, we're not really stressed about the future of larger companies. They are going to be fine by monopolising markets.
@andycarolan @Cloud68 For Slack I don't have a choice, it's what we use at work. The only thing I can do is not post anything personal like photos, which I have done in the past.
@robb @andycarolan @Cloud68 Under those circumstances, I don't understand why employers don't push back - or at least demand a discount if their staff's writing is being user to train something. We don't use Slack, but Google Chat at work, which now comes with useless and inaccurate AI summaries of unread posts, and annoys me endlessly.
@andycarolan @robb @Cloud68 I think they would push back against their supplier company - at least aim to get a discount or similar. If suddenly, different to when you entered the contract, all your user's data is being used to train an AI - I would think that's a change of contact, and since it's a B2B relationship, there would be professionals dealing with the contracts; not the usual click through EULA power imbalance you have when it's just you.